SEXO Y MENTIRAS EN LA NET: Nosotras Infieles

martes, junio 28, 2005

Nosotras Infieles

Aprovechando el lluvioso fin de semana en la capital me puse al día con algunas películas que tenía en lista de espera, entre ellas “Mujeres Infieles” en la cinta se trata el tema de la infidelidad femenina y algunas de sus motivaciones, a mi me pareció bastante entretenida a pesar de que la critica en general no fue buena y a mi modo de ver un poco sesgada por mentalidades machistas o bien por experiencias personales de quienes las emiten, pero bueno ese no es tema. Hay algo en particular que me llamó la atención y que en la película se toca en forma un poco lúdica y tiene que ver con “Los 10 Mandamientos de la Mujer Infiel”, el tema me causó mucha gracia y curiosidad y buscando por aquí y por allá me encontré con que también se publicó un libro con este título y que se define como un “manual” para detectar a las mujeres que engañan a sus parejas.
A continuación les dejo algunas de las supuestas señales que deben poner a los hombres en alerta.

1.- Cuando nos encerramos en el baño a hablar por celular.
2.- Cuando mantenemos un teléfono móvil con plan y otro con tarjeta, para que el detalle de la cuenta no llegue a casa.
3.- Cuando nos preocupamos obsesivamente de la depilación, sobretodo del rebaje.
4.- Cuando cambiamos nuestra forma de vestir y usamos un nuevo perfume…

A mi se me ocurren muchas más y creo que en su mayoria son aplicables tanto a hombres como a mujeres, o no?.

(esta última foto es un regalo para nosotras...las infieles, aunque sea sólo de mente)

220 Comments:

Datos importantes: (no necesariamente tienen que ver con mi experiencia)

Nunca guardar las boletas del Motel.
Jamás dejar huellas (carteo por internet, por ejemplo)
Nunca bañarse con jabón en la presas íntimas(en el motel mismo)
Cuando se excusa con un tercero, jamás debe ser un íntimo al que se le olvide en algún momento la mardá, hay que dar nombres de personas inubicables...
Bueno es lo que se comenta en el ambiente. En todo caso, y pa no tener problemas- se aconseja un terapeuta de pareja, considerando que la infidelidad es el mejor termómetro del fin de una relación... Saludos

By Emilio, at 5:52 p. m.
Emilio, esa serían como las reglas a seguir...
Hay quienes afirman que una infidelidad puede ser el fin o el renacer de la relación.

By Sandra Carrasco, at 6:34 p. m.
Uf... se me escapa del alma decir que mientras más califa anda uno y mientras mejor es el sexo con la pareja, más ganas dan de probar con chicas distintas, entrenar, practicar y buscar variantes nuevas para enriquecer el sexo.

Así que eso de las mujeres infieles, yo creo que habría que conversarlo y hablarlo con la pareja. En una de esas los dos se dan permiso para unas probaditas cuidadosas por fuera. Pero eso del egoísmo y la avaricia de querer tomar uno cosas por fuera pero sin que el otro lo haga lo encuentro último.

By Kike, at 8:38 p. m.
Mejor forma de que no te pillen en una infidelidad: no lo hagas.
Yo lo he hecho y el dolor que he causado no se lo regalo a nadie, y menos me gustaría sentirlo. Si ser infiel es síntoma de que la relación está mal, entonces el que está mal es el infiel, pues no sabe dialogar ni poner las cosas claras.

By El señor K., at 1:30 a. m.
bueno yo soy la reina de las infieles, de hecho me he cagado a cada pololo que he tenido y debo confesar que la mejor sensacion es esa adrenalina que te da el saber que estas haciendo algo prohibido.
Creo que jamas me he enamorado, asi que el dia que un mino me agarre hasta las patas, ahi voy a pagar las mil y una que he cometido. Eso si mis parejas jamas se han enterado de mis infidelidades, asi que como no las saben no existen,obvio.
Ahora las recomendaciones para los varones son:
Cada vez que una mina o mino es super celosa (o) y te hace ataos por todo, es porque conoce del tema y sabe lo que es cagar a alguien. Osea lo practica cachay?
Otro dato, cuando a la hora de colación apagan el celular es porque obviamente estan tirando en un motel. La hora de almuerzo es la mas copada en los moteles.
Cuando hablan mucho de una persona en particular y la admiración es muy evidente, ejemplo:
No es que la "Juanita", que llego nueva a la oficina es muy buena onda, es capa en su pega, hizo tal cosa hoy, etc..... Mucha admiración
Bueno eso, creo que puede servir para cachar si estamos o no de cuernos.
saludos
fran

By Anónimo, at 12:12 p. m.
jajaajaa, supongo que kike se ganó el amor de todas... y creo que tiene mucha razón. El ser humano es por naturaleza infiel, el que no lo reconozca es un CHANTA.
De hecho muchas parejas hoy practican el "intercambio de parejas" o invitar a un tercero a la cama, que tambien se toma por infidelidad pues tu deseo está en otro u otra. Porque pa que tamos con hueas, comer todos los dias filete aburre o no?, sobre todo uno que es huachaca, quiere su pernilcito. jajaja!!
No se me ocurren tips de infidelidad creo que ya están dicho los que personalmete conozco.
Porque a diferencia de mi amigo Emilio, a mi no me lo contaron.

By Anónimo, at 1:26 p. m.
Clo: Yo eso de intercambio de parejas aún no lo transo sé que tal vez en unos cuantos años más llegará a ser de lo más normal, pero me muero ver a mi pareja gozando con otra, Argggg!! de solo imaginar su cara...
Claro está que todos somos natural y potencialmente infieles y te encuentro razón Kike cuando dices que mientras más activos estamos parece que es peor, a quien no le llama la atención ese mundo turbio lleno de deseos,miedos, complicidad, adrenalina pura por lo "prohibido" (JA!!)... pero El Señor K también tiene razón... es mucho dolor y daño que se provoca por un rato de placer, además el sentido de culpa...uf terrible!

By Sandra Carrasco, at 2:05 p. m.
Una infidelidad es de a dos, eso lo aprendí en la vida. Siempre se culpa al que engaña, pero hay más allá de eso, es una responsabilidad y culpa compartida.
Respecto a los detalles que delatan una infidelidad estan:

1: Que le importe más la opinión de su amigo que la propia (o nuestra).
2: Que bote las boletas de compras en vestuario, maquillaje de Falabella u otra tienda.
3: Que se compre ropa que nunca se la vemos puesta.
4: Cambio de animo.
5: Que diga "ayy como me gusta Silvio Rodriguez", si nunca antes le habia interesado.
6: Tener más de una cuenta MSN.
7: Que el auto marque más kilometraje que el acostumbrado (nota, un amigo intentó usar un taladro elétrico para revertir el odómetro, solo se echó el tablero en intentarlo, ahi lo pillaron).
8: Que cambie de perfume.
9: Cuchicheos a media noche, usando su celular.
10: Que el PC sea intocable.

By Anónimo, at 2:12 p. m.
PD: Faltó agregar.

11: Que tenga boletas de peaje, del mismo día que dijo estar con su abuelita Floripondia.
12: Que tenga www.hotelvaldivia.com en Favoritos.
13: Que toques el tema de la infidelidad y diga" ayy chanchi, como se te ocurre eso?, mientras va rápidamente a la cocina por un café sin azúcar.
14: Tener un "almuerzo de negocios" todos los días de la semana, aplicase tambien las reuniones a las 8:00 pm todos los días.
15: La guinda del pastel. Llamarte con otro nombre.

By Anónimo, at 2:21 p. m.
Pasamos demasiado tiempo pensando en la fidelidad. Gastamos muchas energías intentando convencernos de que no debemos malgastar nuestro cuerpo con otro que no sea el que tiene la llave de tu sexualidad. Pero ciertamente la piel acoge sucedáneos, y la epidermis de todos necesita a ratos un cambio. Me quedo con una reflexión del escritor británico Hanif Kureishi, que se los recomiendo a todos, porque trata mucho este tema. Para muestra, lean su novela corta ''Infidelidad'' (editorial Anagrama; Feria Chilena del Libro puede estar), donde el protagonista cuenta su vida la noche que decide abandonar a su esposa por una amante. Narra todo desde su casa en penumbras, mientras sus hijos y su esposa duermen. El protagonista en algún momento se dice: ''Si uno no dejara nunca a nadie ni nada, no tendría espacio para lo nuevo''. Acepto retroalimentación.

By Lino Solís de Ovando G., at 3:43 p. m.
Muu, pero muy bueno tu post.
Lo malo de "algunas" mujeres infieles, es que se toman las cosas muy a pecho. A veces habemos otras, que aún siendo igual, separamos lo carnal de lo sentimental.
Yo apruebo la infidelidad como un estudio de la sexualidad de la mujer (no nos comportamos igual con los amantes que con los de planta). Así que si la infidelidad tiene un fundamento sicológico... que Viva!!

By Campo del Sembrador, at 5:52 p. m.
Simulemos que la infidelidad no existe, y que sólo podemos ser fieles a nosotros mismos, a nuestras fantasías, deseos, sueños, pasiones... porque nadie es dueño de nadie... porque tenemos derecho a tener algunos secretos y porque la vida quizás no sea más que una ilusión...

Muy entrete che... Besote felino en la mejilla más infiel...

By unsologato, at 9:16 p. m.
Excelente tema, como siempre. Me gustó lo que dijo el Sr. K... yo he sido de las "engañadas" y es heavy. Al final estimados, TODO siempre se sabe, y el dolor que se causa e sheavy porque se traiciona la confianza de la persona que menos esperas. Lo que duele es la traición. La Responsabilidad Emocional es importante. O sea, cuando dices algo y no cumples, es como que estás dando un chque sin fondo. En el mundo real, eso implica cárcel, en el emocional, es muchas veces la destrucción del alma, y ahí no abogados que ayuden.
saludos Sandra
Katina

By yo, at 11:56 p. m.
Pro infidelidad a toda costa y contra viento y marea. Porque si la infidelidad fuese la regla se acabarían tantos trastornos de la libido y las emociones fluirían en pos del aquelarre y el instinto. Somos infieles por naturaleza y la moral de turno trata de enmendarnos, pero a esta altura ya no resulta. Mucho animal planet y ecología profunda, pero a la hora de asumir nuestra animalidad todos arrugan, una pena, no. Y cuando arrugan y se reprimen, se cuentan el cuentito de que son seres más espirituales y elevados y que dominan sus pasiones: puras mentiras, pura moral del amo.
Besitos infieles pero fieles.
Chaoooo.

By Ángel mutante, at 8:18 a. m.
nunca he sido infiel. no puedo. de solo pensarlo me pongo mal. prefiero terminar una relacion que engañar a mi mino con otra persona...para mi los compromisos son compromisos y si no vas a cumplir, mejor dar la cara antes de dañar a quien uno quiere.
Quizas se deba a que he tenido 2 pololos y muuuuuuuuuuuuucho tiempo de solteria que he disfrutado a mango: Aventuras, romances, sexo por una noche. He aprovechado al maximo cada oportunidad que se me dio durante la solteria y quizas por lo mismo me tomo en serio el estar en pareja y las promesas que uno hace.
lo que si, he estado con tipos que tienen compromisos y son infieles, pero creo que eso es una variante.
besos a todos

By pomelo, at 6:34 p. m.
infiel.................................................eso no va con la naturaleza humana...quizas ahi la irracionalidad del amor. Y la fuerza de la carne.

By Pablofe, at 10:06 p. m.
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By Anónimo, at 12:38 a. m.
¿? no entender anónimo
¿?¿?¿?

By Anónimo, at 12:12 p. m.
Los caminos me acercan...
a tus ojos

By yole, at 2:49 p. m.
te recomiendo la película infiel, deliciosa.

By pijomad, at 3:14 p. m.
Buena la foto..me gustó.

Yo nunca he sido infiel,principalmente porque no le encuentro el atractivo, pero tengo amigas que son bastante infieles y lo pasan chancho..jajaja

By Carly, at 12:36 p. m.
Es que cada cual tiene su estilo, algunos polígamos incorregibles, creo que estos (as) posiblemente le son fieles a todas (os), sólo que en forma paralela. Un gran beso Sandra, ojalá uno de estos días te pueda pillar en el chat, siempre que te veo conectada llega mi jefe y sería todo.

By Miss Mag, at 10:43 p. m.
Uff un poco tarde vengo a comentar el tema pero no importa, creo que la infidelidad es una manera de liberar tensiones o de buscar problemas,hay personas que cuando todo está bien en sus vidas necesitan el conflicto para sentirse realmente "vivas". Yo, personalmente infiel pero sólo de desencanto, nunca he sido infiel primero, sólo después de una traición... pero ahora opto por la soltería, así no hay remordimientos ni cargos de conciencia... ja ja ja...
Saludines, y un abrazo!!

By Monin, at 11:53 a. m.
creo que hay que relajarse y no darle tanto asunto al tema de Mujeres Infieles. Por siglos hemos sido las engañadas. En la epoca de la colonia nos callabamos frente a la infidelidad ( en nuestras propias narices) de los hombres. Bueno ahora no hay que darle mas vueltas, el sexo y el amor son cosas distintas, que bueno que para algunos sean una sola, pero para la mayoria son diferentes. Y por lo demas las mujeres son iguales a los hombres, no hay diferencia en el engaño, es el mismo. Asi que chicas, cobremos lo que por siglos nos deben los hombres

By Anónimo, at 1:39 p. m.
También tengo algunos puntos más. Algunos de ellos observados de primera mano...

By Cabeto, at 1:53 p. m.
pues.. sí, yo también agregaría algunos puntillos más...
pero como yo no sé bien de qué va esto de la infidelidad ;) pues no puedo hablar del tema con conocimiento de causa...
en finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

By Elisa de Cremona, at 6:15 p. m.
he sido infiel, me han sido infiel. tampoco me parece tan terrible, pero hay agravantes, como que se pongan a follar en tu propia cama (esa huevá sí que no y lo digo por experiencia). lo que sí tengo claro es que "mujeres infieles" es una película muy deficiente. está mal actuada, mal estructurada y con una música que es para pegarse un tiro. creo que no tiene mejor nivel que una teleserie, cuando se supone que el cine está para un público un poco más exigente. lo peor es que muuuuuuy conservadora: todos los infieles sufren castigos innombrables, los hombres son todos unos hijos de puta y lo único interesante que es la relación lésbica es tratado con un candor infantil y casi con vergüenza. si quieren sentir lo que se siente cuando las mujeres son infieles recomiendo ver "closer".

By crisis, at 6:34 p. m.
Sí, Closer es un buen ejemplo, un ejemplo maduro no de chiste.
Y claro, todos somos infieles.
Saludos

By Gonzaloieb, at 6:05 p. m.
Sandra :

Cuando se te ocurra ser infiel, " despuès de " comprate una cerveza o un vino, te tomas una copa y la otra te la chorreas en la mano y te la pasas por la cara, quedas tan pasada a trago que ni te pescan.

Te invito a unas copas en mi blog y que miremos el mundo A travès de mi persiana Americana .

By Marsot, at 7:17 p. m.
Infidelidad....dificil tema. Creo que todos seremos algún día infieles. No ha sido mi caso AÚN ahhhhhhh se cuénta cuando has sido tu la causa de la infidelidad??? no cierto??? jejeje

Saludos Sandra y no te pierdas.

By mili, at 12:41 p. m.
¡Queremos las fechas!!
Besos

By Emilio, at 1:44 p. m.
Debo decir que fui a ver la película recién estrenadita porque me tincaba, y me gustó. Me reí bastante.

Directo al grano... aunque aburren los llantos del regio Benjamín Vicuña... y me dan nervios los tantos huesos de las chiquillas, en mi caso no se ve ninguno.. jajaja

También debo decir que el beso de la Sigrid con la española ésa estuvo super bien mostrado, me gustó también.

Igual pienso que puso en evidencia harto de lo que sí es real. Porque claro que Sí. las mujeres también podemos llegar a ser infieles, pero aunque digan lo que digan, no creo que sea sólo por el rato. Es una cuestión más fabricada, más buscada, creo que siempre son carencias que llena un regio recien llegado, y si no pretende quedarse mejor aún...

Saludos Sandri...

By Anónimo, at 10:53 a. m.
excelente post, y buenos datos,

ya decía esta mujer que habla por celular en el bañp, no me parecía normal...

ummhh... ;-)
un abrazo Piotr!

By Piotr, at 3:33 p. m.
gracias por la data che, ahora entiendo un fangote de cosas jejeje
a ver si con estos datitos no me cagan de nuevo (¿se me ve la hosamenta de cornudo?) :p

Benito. Http://www.menefrega.com.ar

By Anónimo, at 6:36 a. m.
Como siempre que te visito Sandra has armado polémica, pero se la buena. Es muy entretenido visitarte!
Saludos

By marcela en canada, at 10:25 a. m.
....y negarlo hasta el final,así te pillen en el sitio del suceso!! Es preferible una duda atroz a una certeza demoledora
(tomado de experiencia ajena. no respondo por el consejo)

By francisco josé, at 5:02 p. m.
Olvidémosnos de infidelidad ,amémosnos todos y eliminemos el ego del poseer al otro como si fuéramos su dueño o dueña ,sería rico ? tener la libertad de amar a todos sin conflictos ni culpas ,y eliminar los celos y la culpa de la humanidad y ser todos felices amando,la infidelidad no existiría...

By Anónimo, at 6:01 p. m.
Sogo la huella de tus pasos

By yole, at 4:12 a. m.
REAL

REAL

La infidedlidad causa adrenalina y desgaste.

By Unknown, at 10:40 p. m.
La infidelidad es un síntoma de sanidad mental.
La infidelidad es la respuesta natural que el ser humano escoge para compensar lo artificial del matrimonio.
El matrimonio no es natural. Es un artificio creado por el hombre por razones religiosas y económicas.
Religiosas, cuando se pasó del politeismo y la poligamia al monoteismo.
Económicas, porque como no existía el test de ADN se garantizaba de algún modo que el heredero de sus bienes sería realmente su propio hijo.

By Anónimo, at 10:26 a. m.
He sido infiel a mi esposo con 15 hombres diferentes(los conté)en 5 años,de ellos 3 han sido más "estables", obviamente cada uno de esos hombres se creía el único.Yo pensé que nunca podría hacerlo,pero aquí estoy...sin culpas,con un matrimonio muy feliz y no sé por qué lo hago, siento que es alimentar mi ego,tengo esa necesidad de estar "conquistando"....También puede ser que soy joven y tengo miedo al paso del tiempo y todas esas tonteras. Nadie me entendería, yo creo,por eso no le he contado a nadie, es algo mío, es como la doble vida que llevo.Nadie sospecharía algo así de mí. Por lo tanto, se puede ser infiel sin que se note para nada....

By Anónimo, at 10:56 a. m.
Hola quiero felicitarte por tu blogs el cual lo encontre muy interesante. Ademas quiero invitarte al mio en el cual encontraras temas de interes femenino.
http://inhinotep.blogspot.com/
Un beso

By Anónimo, at 12:33 a. m.
YO TENGO MI PAREJA, SIN EMBARGO, HE TENIDO EXPREIENCIAS PARALELAS LAS CUALES ME HAN SIDO ESTIMULANTES, PORQUE LA MONITONIA DEL MATRIMONIO LA CONVIERTE A UNA EN UNA MAQUINA. Y DE REPENTE ALGUIEN TE HACE SENTIR HORMIGUEOS Y COSAS RICAS INEXPLICABLES, ESO NO ES AMOR ES CALENTURA Y ES RICO... NADA MAS.

By Anónimo, at 5:59 p. m.
pues.. yo h sido infiel durante un año. Salía con dos chicos ala vez, bah, estaba de novia, q es peor. Los dos se conocían. Yo vivía en el medio, uno hacia la derecha de mi barrio, el otro hacia la izquierda.
Hay q tener dinero para solventar las mentiras, como decir q te vas a casa de tu madre, y dejar de pasada a uno en la suya, y luego volver a tu casa a buscar al otro, todo en taxi, x ej.

Pero, no lo haría nunca más.
Mucha adrenalina si, pero tbn mucho desgaste y joder así a mi amor, no no no
Ah, y me descubrieron, xq yo me harté, y les dejé hablando x msn... fue malísimo!

By ©Iv4n4, at 7:18 a. m.
Mi humilde opinión es que la infidelidad, pese a todo lo anterior, no existe o no ha de ser entendida como algo ajeno.

No se es infiel al otro, uno es o no es fiel a uno mismo, siempre.

Igualmente, y para no verse afectado por esa infidelidad "de otro", para hacer desaparecer esa falacia, la clave es la distancia.

La distancia entre lo que nos ocurre, y lo que nos afecta.

Uno no puede decidir sobre aquello que le sucede, sin embargo SÍ puede decidir sobre aquello que le afecta.

Y si no... qué es, o cuál es el motivo de este hilo de comentarios??

By Anónimo, at 7:13 a. m.
Hola a todas/os:
Me ha gustado mucho la forma de responder sobre un tema tan recurrente, hoy en día: LA inFidelididad.
LLevo 20 años de casada y he intentado dialogar con mi pareja, explicarle que un contrato matrimonial NO significa garantía de "fidelidad" cuando no hay amor. El sospecha que he sido infiel; pero jamás ha querido escucharlo de mi boca. La verdad es que lo fui una sóla vez y es el amor de mi vida, aunque duró casi un año y decidimos terminar por la distancia que nos separa.
¿¿¿Culpable soy yo???
Definitivamente no, él dejó los mimos desde que nació nuestro último hijo hace 15 años. Sexo no hubo nuca más !!! Un buen día en messenger conocí un chico y re-viví al sentirme deseada nuevmmente como mujer, poco a poco todo comenzaba a darse y viajé a encontrarnos a B.Aires.
Fui mujer nuevamente y no tengo sentido de culpabilidad en absoluto.
La lata es que en Stgo. no salgo porque me asusta encontrar a alguien que me haga perder la cabeza y dejarlo todo ¡¡¡ incluso mis hijos !!!
Se que soy aún joven y puedo rehacer mi vida.
¿ Valdará la pena ? o simplemente soy una egoista de mi%$da ???

Saludos de una infiel enamorada de su amante.

By Anónimo, at 10:42 p. m.
El tema excelente, he sido infiel por 7 años y continuo con el mismo ahinco , fuerza y cariño, me arrepiento de ello pero me es necesario, un tip que se les olvido es despues del tercero al bañarse no ponerse mas jabon pues es detectado, al llegar a casa, tomarse una cerveza, una fruta de naranja o guayaba.

By Anónimo, at 6:42 a. m.
El tema excelente, he sido infiel por 7 años y continuo con el mismo ahinco , fuerza y cariño, me arrepiento de ello pero me es necesario, un tip que se les olvido es despues del tercero al bañarse no ponerse mas jabon pues es detectado, al llegar a casa, tomarse una cerveza, una fruta de naranja o guayaba.

By Anónimo, at 6:43 a. m.
Si la chica te cuida no se pondrà perfume que te delate, no hablarà a tu casa ni en horarios peligrosos, si le gustò como haces el amor, te cuidarà, te buscarà pero alerta si al estar contigo apaga el celular y habla de una tercera persona, quiere decir que no eres el unico, si absorves las mayor parte del tiempo d ella, tal vez seas el mejor de todos, esto no quiere decir que no kieras a tu esposa,la verdad hago el amor como loko con las dos, de manera separada logicamente, mi esposa me hace ver estrellas, mi amante solo veo los cometas , todo es fugaz, las amantes deben ser mas guapas sino ni te metas, no corras riesgos. Una amante nunca te va a decir que eres lo maximo, ni tu se lo digas a ella, me arrepiento de todo y me gustaria retirarme ya y olvidar a mi amante. Kiero mucho a mi esposa aunke no lo krean, esto que hacemos los infieles està mal, pero a veces es necesario, no soy machista me comporto muy formal con ambas, sipueden hacerlo disfrutenlol, pero cuidado es peligroso.

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